What does “finding self” mean?

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This post, like a lot of the ones that I’ve added lately, is something that I originally published on another website.  But, unlike the other ones, I think I should include the ‘comment field’ from the past.  Several people commented about this topic when it was live via HubPages, and it would benefit this seemingly simple question/post, by adding input from others.  Remember, when I say “hub” it simply means an article on the site called “HubPages.”

What does “finding self” mean?

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Rainbow - Spectrum of Earth

Lets start over, seek out, and find ‘self’ once again…

Ignorance of Self
Many people are unaware of their actual actuality; okay, that seems to be the norm around here. Most people are caught up in the mundane routines of life, so they never actually ponder subjects like this or explore personal philosophies, for that matter. For the ones that do, unfortunately, the majority of them are either brainwashed by other organized beliefs or render into the offering plates of corruption – whether it is religion, governments, or other “organized” bull-sh*t.

So, once again…what does “finding self” really mean to you?

Seeking Awareness of Self?
Since I seem to be perpetually banned from HubPages’ online forums due to my offensive intellect, I couldn’t participate in, once again, an interesting topic from the “Knowledge & Education” forum today. HubPages’ member ‘marinealways24’ started the thread that was titled “Finding Self.” You can find it here: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/39443

Mr. Marine started by saying: [Edited] What is ‘self’? How does a person find their own self? If people continually lie to themselves, can they ever find themselves? I think the definition of ‘self’, in short, equals honesty. What are your thoughts?

I was going to simply reply with:

Finding ‘self’ is to find clarity without the influence of others, and without outside thoughts & beliefs from others; it is to come at terms with being atomically connected to the universe and to reach a higher level of awareness. …And to other ‘simple minded’ folks caught up in the material world or to the ones with narrow minded thoughts, finding their ‘self’ may simply mean that they know their name and have eventually learned how to spell it… LOL!

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…If I wouldn’t get banned for petty stuff, this hub wouldn’t be necessary. I could carry on in the debate, add more thoughts, maybe agree or disagree with others, experience different viewpoints, etc. Hell, I may just start pulling the forums into quick hubs, just to combat the insanity of the sensitivity that caused me to get banned multiple times, to start with. This is absolutely ridiculous……

Anyway, there is a comment field, even if it’s for me to just talk to myself… Ha-ha! So…, what do you think it means to “find yourself?”

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Beauty...

Well, this was the ‘comment field’ below:

T.S. says: There are many ways in which a person can begin to know himself. One of these ways is that for this person to take a peak to the outside world and ponder over the things he has seen.
His sight with the eyes will be similar to the sight of all common people around him, however his thoughts, feelings, and inner view of what he has seen will be his self. I other words I can look at a man on the street and think of him as being stupid person, and in reality he can be the smarts one around. My inner view that was taken after the image was beamed into my self, is in truth the mere reflection of myself.

I said: Hi there, thanks for commenting…
Yeah, it is often a reflective process.
A person can learn a lot about their self by nature, their surroundings, and by the relationships with others.

T.S. said: True, we are as mirrors and our reflection is the measurment in which our purity is shown.
Just as an impure mirror is unable to reflect images in clearness, our soul is also unable to do so when impure.
The more we purify our soul, the more we will become aware and wise.

I said: With or without so-called purification by “name & title” beliefs, the simple reflection of “self” aids in your own personal awareness and betterment of oneself – but only after you begin to recognize this obvious pattern of nature……

T.S. said: One who does not purify his self from the impurities of others, will be nothing but a stain of dirt common to the impurities of the blind.
Purification of the self, is the only way to freedom and full awareness. For the nature of things are only seen when such things are clear and separate from others.
As it is the nature of the self of water to be “see through”, This same nature will be concealed if it is to be made impure.
When we attempt to unite with different things our nature will be altered and the only thing known will be our unity as a whole and not the parts which make the whole.
If purification was not established the only thing that will be thought seen is the vague image of the whole, and no one will ever come to know his single state of the purified self.

I said: No, you confuse the process of “finding self” with religious hogwash; plain & simple.

T.S. said: When a given person says; “I want to find myself” He clearly states that his purpose is built on finding one thing, which is himself.
However, it should also be noted that “finding the self” does not mean to find a thing at a certain location, rather to find a given thing in a known location. Our self is located within us and not within others; it is our nature and not the nature of the whole universe as a whole.
You can look at the world as being things that complete each other and are at constant interaction with one another, but to know a certain part one does not need to know the whole function.
We know that 2 + 6 = 8. In other words we understand that 2 and 6 add to give 8. However, if I intended to know the number 6 alone, I do not need to look at; “2 + 6 = 8”. All I have to do is to look at the number itself and come to the understanding of its place and its personal properties.
I haven’t been mentioning religion in this topic, but it seems as though religion is the bases of common purified logic.

I said: Your last reply was better, mainly since you left all the “impure” talk and “purification” gestures out of it, which is a religious innuendo, by the way.
Thanks for the feedback…
Hey, maybe you should, if you haven’t already, write a hub about this topic – since it seems to spark a big interest from you.

T.S. said: Thanks bro
I am currently trying to express an idea I have gained throughout some experience. Hopefully I will be able to post it as soon as I am done with pondering over it.
The way I see religion is not as a thing that is separate from our life, rather I see it as a thing that completes us.
The idea of purity might be a little misunderstood, but even if we were not to think about religion or a God, this idea will still be clearly present in our lives. All we have to do is to open up to its approach, for even in religion there is a science.

I said: I don’t think there is a need for organized religions and/or “name & title” beliefs. But, what works for others doesn’t apply to everyone – we are individuals with different levels & paths in life.
Good luck with your hub about this topic/subject matter, and thanks for all of your comments and/or writing a hub in my comment field, as well. LOL! 🙂

T.S. said: Your welcome.
I believe every person has a free will in this world, but with sole belief that slavery is only a product of forced labor or work by men, we truly as a result become enslaved to ideas and rejection out of mere opposition.
It is good to take in the ideas of other and to ponder over them, so we might learn from everyone. Even one who does mistake can teach us good lessons.
Peace bro 🙂

I said: As Spock would say, “live long & prosper.” 🙂

Kori Lee said: I agree with your profile completely. I think defining self may first start with different theories of psychology- what motivates me, what is unconscious especial the stuff I don’t know is lurking around in my psyche. The second is to be brutally honest with what you find. If you cannot look at yourself and see your faults or strengths then what is the point. While I do not subscribe to dogmatic religions, some do have an element of seeking that I like. For example, Buddhism does a lot of deep analysis of psychological issues- that includes intuitive and body philosophies. I am not a Buddhist but I try to find the way to truth, and do like the Dali Lama and Mother Teresa’s of the world do.

I said: Hi, Kori Lee! It sounds like you are on the right path – when it comes to this subject. When I get a chance, I’ll check out some of your work! Thanks for stopping by… 🙂

Jewels said: Now here is a topic. Self taken in it’s highest form needs to go back to it’s roots. Try the Hindu (sanskrit) term of Atman as the real meaning of Self. (Upanishads) It is a state of pure being or is-ness and it is devoid of any sense of individuality. It is in fact a transcendental level of human consciousness.
When a person speaks of self generally there is no understanding of this more inner and uncorrupted state of your self. What most people understand of self is the gross levels, that which is the emotional rantings of your thoughts and reactions.
True psychological exploration will show the mask of the “astral” layers that we use while in human form. As Kori Lee said, the Buddhist tradition purifies the mind by sifting through these gross layers to find their true Self. But be aware that this state is a high state of consciousness and far far removed from our ordinary mind.

I said: Rid yourself from the haze, fall back to the root; I’m moving, but yet, I’m not moving at all; the only limitation is limitation of one’s self. Art reveals itself in psychic understanding of the inner essence of things and gives form to the relation of man with nothing, with the nature of the absolute.

Daniel C. said: I enjoyed this hub. I have a lot more questions than answers about “self”, “God”, “universe” and more. The best thing I can do for me now is to try to stay present and still. I’ve been running for a lot of years and it’s a tough habit to break. I’ve enjoyed some of your rants in the forums, and am enjoying some of your hubs.

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After that last comment, I never got to reply back since that was about the same time both of my accounts (from the HubPages site) got shitcanned and/or terminated.  It was a big farewell to that lame site and a grand “hello” to this crazy one!

Anyway, feel free to add your comments to this blog post, if you have any further ideas when it comes to “finding self.”

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